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12-13-2006, 03:50 PM
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new version of SDcopy.exe available
Hi
The new version V1.99beta of my tool sdcopy.exe is available here:
http://zyvid.com/smf/index.php?acti...ic=280.0;id=153
You can use it to convert the mod files from the Panasonic or JVC tapeless camcorders to standard mpeg2 files.
The new version now sorts the thumbnail icons by the file date and lets its icon blink in the taskbar in case the copy operation is finished(helpful when running in background).
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12-27-2006, 04:52 PM
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Thanks Sektionschef. I'll try that one on my new mini laptop complete with SD slot! 
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05-08-2007, 10:32 AM
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I just got my everio yesterday. This tool is very nice. When I use it to set the 16x9 flag and play the clips in WMP (on vista) I get green bars top and bottom. Is that because of my player? Is there any way I can get those to be black?
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05-09-2007, 01:26 AM
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Originally Posted by eightbit
I just got my everio yesterday. This tool is very nice. When I use it to set the 16x9 flag and play the clips in WMP (on vista) I get green bars top and bottom. Is that because of my player? Is there any way I can get those to be black?
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Hi
Sorry, I don't have any experiences with Windows Vista yet.
However, I doubt that this problem comes from my tool because it just modifies a flag in the headers but does not do any modifications to the video content. Can you try a different video player(VLC)?
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05-09-2007, 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by sektionschef
Hi
Sorry, I don't have any experiences with Windows Vista yet.
However, I doubt that this problem comes from my tool because it just modifies a flag in the headers but does not do any modifications to the video content. Can you try a different video player(VLC)?
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Pardon for my ignorance but what does the prog do that is different than you renaming the MOV file to MPEG to allow you to edit in other software?
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05-09-2007, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by sektionschef
Hi
Sorry, I don't have any experiences with Windows Vista yet.
However, I doubt that this problem comes from my tool because it just modifies a flag in the headers but does not do any modifications to the video content. Can you try a different video player(VLC)?
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Thanks for replying, sorry I didn't test further before asking the question. In WMP 11 on my vista box if I click inside the video frame after opening the video then the background goes from green screen green to black. Opening it in VLC it gives a black background like it should. Thats an annoying qwirck but it could just be this PC I'll have to play with it at home.
On both my vista box and my XP 64 bit box here when I open the video in Media player 11 the ratio only looks right after processing with your tool. Before your tool the 16x9 is squashed to 4x3.
On both boxes if I open it with VLC after using your tool then they are stretched extra wide. If I manually rename the origanel mod to mpg and open with VLC then they the ratio is correct. So some players are catching the JVC flag and some aren't.
Your tool is very nice, I really like renaming the files to a time date stamp and the ease of uploading the camera. It baffles me why JVC doesn't provide a tool like this.
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Originally Posted by Seaking
Pardon for my ignorance but what does the prog do that is different than you renaming the MOV file to MPEG to allow you to edit in other software?
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I've only been using the tool for a day but it will also rename the files to a time and date format of your choosing and it can correct the 16x9 ratio flag for some apps. It also simplifies unloading your camcorder. Once you set up the source and destination you can unload your camera just by launching the tool and clicking the start button. If thats to much work for you, you could launch the command line from a batch file and unload your camera with a single click. I haven't tried that yet but thats what I need to make it so that my wife can do it.
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05-09-2007, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by eightbit
I've only been using the tool for a day but it will also rename the files to a time and date format of your choosing and it can correct the 16x9 ratio flag for some apps. It also simplifies unloading your camcorder. Once you set up the source and destination you can unload your camera just by launching the tool and clicking the start button. If thats to much work for you, you could launch the command line from a batch file and unload your camera with a single click. I haven't tried that yet but thats what I need to make it so that my wife can do it.
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The Panasonic SDR-S150 allows me to either remove the 8G card and insert it in the card reader or connect the camera directly and permits me to see the individual files on the card as MOV. My file management program allows me to copy from destination to source with one click and then batch rename all the files easily. I don't have to launch the supplied software to import the files.
However, my desktop is XP and I found it a lot easier to edit the videos with the supplied software and then using Windows Movie Maker to convert them to WMV. Select an option switch to save them as 16:9 vice 4:3. This process works so much nicer than when I was trying it with Premier etc.
My Laptop on the other hand is Vista (argh) and the supplied software isn't supported so I have no choice but to use either Premier or something else if I can find it.. Shame as the laptop is new and purchased for portability for my upcoming projects.. Soon time to nuke out Vista and put XP on it..
I think it's on this thread where I put up a link to a video I did this past weekend using the fast process.. I'm impressed with this camera!
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05-09-2007, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Seaking
The Panasonic SDR-S150 allows me to either remove the 8G card and insert it in the card reader or connect the camera directly and permits me to see the individual files on the card as MOV. My file management program allows me to copy from destination to source with one click and then batch rename all the files easily. I don't have to launch the supplied software to import the files.
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I'm using a JVC camera the software that came with mine is aweful in my opinion so possibly this utility is much more useful to me than to you. On the JVC cam the files are all .mod (not .mov) and most software won't open them but if you rename them to .mpg they open just fine because they are just mpeg2.
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05-09-2007, 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by eightbit
I'm using a JVC camera the software that came with mine is aweful in my opinion so possibly this utility is much more useful to me than to you. On the JVC cam the files are all .mod (not .mov) and most software won't open them but if you rename them to .mpg they open just fine because they are just mpeg2.
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Ok I understand now.. no worries.. Are you still able to just copy the MOD files as is to the PC and then batch rename them? Oh wait, that's what the software does lol.. Nice.
The supplied editing software (gees, I can never remember what it's called) works well enough for my needs, not as powerful as Premier but gooder'nuff.. ; )
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05-09-2007, 02:08 PM
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Ok I understand now.. no worries.. Are you still able to just copy the MOD files as is to the PC and then batch rename them? Oh wait, that's what the software does lol.. Nice.
The supplied editing software (gees, I can never remember what it's called) works well enough for my needs, not as powerful as Premier but gooder'nuff.. ; )
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The included editing software is good enough for simple edits but the camera didn't come with anything to unload it. I could browse to the camera and drag and drop the files to my computer but this utility does it all for me. Hence why I like it so much. Plus the added benefit of fixing the 16x9 flag and renaming them into whatever format I desire. Personally I prefer the time date stamp format.
I am enjoying the lack of tapes. The video quality may not be as good as the best current mini DV tape cameras but its as good a quality as the video from my 3 yr old mini DV and for me thats good enough.
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05-09-2007, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Seaking
Pardon for my ignorance but what does the prog do that is different than you renaming the MOV file to MPEG to allow you to edit in other software?
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Hi Seaking
If you record in 16:9 widescreen format with your S150 then you should have noticed that most video editing sw do not display the video correct. This is because Panasonic and JVC do not set the 16:9 flag correct inside the mpeg2 headers, instead they put the flag inside the corresponding MOI file. It is no problem to convert MOD to MPG(just rename them) but my tool SDcopy.exe also sets the 16:9 flag inside the MOD file correctly. I think that Panasonic'S MotionSD sw also does this that's why you haven't encountered any problems so far.
I don't like the Panansonic sw at all that's why I wrote my tool.
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05-15-2007, 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by sektionschef
Hi Seaking
If you record in 16:9 widescreen format with your S150 then you should have noticed that most video editing sw do not display the video correct. This is because Panasonic and JVC do not set the 16:9 flag correct inside the mpeg2 headers, instead they put the flag inside the corresponding MOI file. It is no problem to convert MOD to MPG(just rename them) but my tool SDcopy.exe also sets the 16:9 flag inside the MOD file correctly. I think that Panasonic'S MotionSD sw also does this that's why you haven't encountered any problems so far.
I don't like the Panansonic sw at all that's why I wrote my tool.
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Understood, thanks for clarifying that for me.. learning something new every day ; ) The only one thing I don't like about the MotionSD software is that I haven't found the UNDO abilities of it, if it even has one.. so before you cut or edit, ya gotta be sure you got it right..
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07-07-2007, 04:51 AM
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I have sdr-s150 and your sdcopy is a useful program... but i have a question: i write dvd (iso) with mpeg (and correct with your program in 16:9) but on dvd player the mpeg files are always in 4:3... maybe the problem is dvd (iso mode)? thanks for all
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07-09-2007, 10:22 AM
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Even with a proper well balanced hammer, a carpenter can mash his thumb trying to hammer in a nail. That's what I did with SDCopy yesterday.
It is unusual for me to have more than 32 video clips on the SD card in one of my video cameras. I did yesterday. With my new SDR-S10, I find that with the 8GB SDHC Class 4 card in it, I don't need to empty the SD card every time I need to charge the battery. My normal protocol has been to start shooting with a fully charged battery and an empty SD card. Up until now, that means the battery and the SD card need maintenance at the same time, but not with an 8GB SD card in an SDR-S10. Even at XP, the SDR-S10 can record almost two hours of video on an 8GB SDHC card. The battery is good for half of that. So Sunday I ended up with 38 clips after using it Saturday and changing the battery, and then more shooting on Sunday. I can't help it if my grandchildren are so cute.
Some of you may know what happened next. SDCopy looks at directories full of clips and then copies them out. When a solid state camcorder records more than 32 clips, it starts a new directory. You have to remember that when you unload the SD card. I didn't, and proceeded to delete all the clips without having unloaded them all. Luckily, I used RecoverMyFiles to recover all the clips on the SD card.
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07-09-2007, 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Crunchy Doodle
Even with a proper well balanced hammer, a carpenter can mash his thumb trying to hammer in a nail. That's what I did with SDCopy yesterday.
It is unusual for me to have more than 32 video clips on the SD card in one of my video cameras. I did yesterday. With my new SDR-S10, I find that with the 8GB SDHC Class 4 card in it, I don't need to empty the SD card every time I need to charge the battery. My normal protocol has been to start shooting with a fully charged battery and an empty SD card. Up until now, that means the battery and the SD card need maintenance at the same time, but not with an 8GB SD card in an SDR-S10. Even at XP, the SDR-S10 can record almost two hours of video on an 8GB SDHC card. The battery is good for half of that. So Sunday I ended up with 38 clips after using it Saturday and changing the battery, and then more shooting on Sunday. I can't help it if my grandchildren are so cute.
Some of you may know what happened next. SDCopy looks at directories full of clips and then copies them out. When a solid state camcorder records more than 32 clips, it starts a new directory. You have to remember that when you unload the SD card. I didn't, and proceeded to delete all the clips without having unloaded them all. Luckily, I used RecoverMyFiles to recover all the clips on the SD card.
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Crunchy, do you want to say that sdcopy does not copy more than 32 files??? Or doesn't sdcopy detect all the folders on the card??? Is there any problem with sdcopy that I could fix?
By the way, would you please post some S10 sample clips....
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