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  #31  
Old 03-17-2003, 12:00 AM
Lorin Thwaits
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NLE Editing - How to make a perfect AVI to edit with

<!-- Rating:</B> 4<img src="http://www.camcorderinfo.com/images/icons/star.gif" width=22 height=18><img src="http://www.camcorderinfo.com/images/icons/star.gif" width=22 height=18><img src="http://www.camcorderinfo.com/images/icons/star.gif" width=22 height=18><img src="http://www.camcorderinfo.com/images/icons/star.gif" width=22 height=18><BR> --><BR>Okay, before any Mac guys get offended, I warn you that I am a total PC guy, and this explanation is geared that way. I`m sure that once the video is captured, there`s also a way to convert from the standard MPEG-2 .M2T transport stream files to QuickTime, probably with MM2D found at http://mm2d.sourceforge.net/. Anyway, on a PC to get a perfect lossless AVI from the MPEG stream, just use a tool to remux the file from its native MPEG-2 transport stream to a program stream, then decompress with the freeware VirtualDub program that has been modified to take MPEG-2 as a source (Available from http://es.geocities.com/dextstuff/#VirtualDub ). Note that the somewhat popular Flask program won\'t work because the widest video it can handle is 1008 pixels. Anyway, with the modified VirtualDub program, you can save using any AVI codec you want, including the perfectly lossless and freeware HuffYUV that uses just Huffman encoding. Premiere or whatever other NLE you want is then an option, with absolutely no artifacts other than what the camera`s MPEG-2 introduced back when it was recorded on tape. At the show I took very little interest in the editor that comes bundled with the camera, and focused on how I could get this high-quality stream over to an NLE that I\'m familiar with. The JVC folks at the booth were kind enough to burn a CD for me with the standard .M2T files the camera dumps from its included capture tool. With those I played around and came up with the above procedure, which provides no loss of image quality.
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  #32  
Old 03-17-2003, 12:00 AM
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any chance...

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mrbojangles@zipmail.com

thnx.
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  #33  
Old 03-17-2003, 12:00 AM
skyonic
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m2t

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thanks
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  #34  
Old 03-19-2003, 12:00 AM
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m2t please

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  #35  
Old 03-19-2003, 12:00 AM
Steffen
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What we\'ve waited for!

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  #36  
Old 03-27-2003, 12:00 AM
andyL
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m2t, will record to film.

<!-- Rating:</B> 1<img src="http://www.camcorderinfo.com/images/icons/star.gif" width=22 height=18><BR> --><BR>If anybody has a stream from the camera, please send me a copy as well "andy@creofilm.com", I would like to do a test of up-resing to filmout. (I have access to a film recorder at work) I want to do a comparason against the panay 24p camera.
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  #37  
Old 03-27-2003, 12:00 AM
Rafain
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Nice review, sorry I\'ve read it!

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By the way for those 3CCD vs 1CCD folks: Remember were talking about digital data. The real effect is on compression needed to get continuos frames recorded on a tape. If you\'re really interested on digital picture quallity, have you ever wonder why nobody in Digital Still Photography does have this 3CCD vs 1CCD discussions? They need quallity and colorfull pictures as well...
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  #38  
Old 03-29-2003, 12:00 AM
Matthias
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Consumer HD

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  #39  
Old 03-29-2003, 12:00 AM
Matthias
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Consumer HD

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  #40  
Old 04-01-2003, 12:00 AM
Steve Mullen
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Great Evaluation

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I found that the "pale" JVC images were easily overcome by bringing your great BMP files into Photoshop and increasing saturation by 15. Which leads to the question: does the JVC have a Saturation setting?

d-v-c@mindspring.com << MAIL TO

Folks might want to go to:

http://www.mindspring.com/~d-v-c/

to find tons of information on the new JVC.

Thank you in advance,
Steve
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  #41  
Old 04-03-2003, 12:00 AM
Gary Corting
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New Hitachi HD Camcorder

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This is info that was posted in another forum. It seems to be credible. The U.S. value is about $8,000. Blue laser seems to mean the new HD DVD format. I think that the JVC camcorder at 1/2 the price is a lot better deal.
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  #42  
Old 04-03-2003, 12:00 AM
Nick B
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Compared with Varicam

<!-- Rating:</B> 1<img src="http://www.camcorderinfo.com/images/icons/star.gif" width=22 height=18><BR> --><BR>Panasonic Varicam is also 720p and costs $63K without a lens. It records at 60p, then to get other speed, a freme converter is used top do pulldown. At 30p every second frame is discarded. The 100 Mbps transfer rate changes to 50 Mbps. At 24p it is only 40 Mbps. The JVC is 19 Mbps. 720/30p HDTV also MPEG2, like the JVC and the transfer rate is 19Mbps. The transfer rate is in between HDTV and Panasonic Varicam. The picture quality should be superb.
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  #43  
Old 04-03-2003, 12:00 AM
Nick B
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Compared with Varicam

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  #44  
Old 04-03-2003, 12:00 AM
Jerry
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Ikagami HD Camcorder

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  #45  
Old 04-09-2003, 12:00 AM
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How did it look at NAB

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