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Old 10-19-2006, 04:33 PM
Cazom Cazom is offline
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Thanks DVD405/803 user group, camera usag experience

I've been off the board for a while but thanks to the help I received on this board I finished my documentary. (The Womble recommendation particularily saved me from pulling all my hair out)
Filmed entirely on an 803e,(the film is in two parts here
www.myspace.com/pooloflife
(The cam had been purchased on arrival in ShangHai with chinese instruction manual only)
(The film was on google video in higher quality till they decided to censor it off. Google twitchey about china??)

For 803/403 users interesting points :-
Premiere had proved unstable,
Movie maker lost sound sync
The first few minutes were edited in nero but with hours of work lost along the way to crashes, womble came to the rescue and did the rest.
What I learned
Basics:-
Use a tripod obvious but see below!!

Hard learned 803/403 points:-
The zoom was very hard to control and requires practice.
Sound off the surround mic was great,but I also sometimes used a gun mic but wish I hadn't!!. It was particularily unsuitable in a reverberant room, see Willi Chou interview and sounded naffer than the on board.
Its a shame the cam had no headphone socket I only got to hear the sound properly once back in UK!
Editing.
To add music with a predictable soundsync in womble make sure your sound track is same sample rate as camera sound i.e. 48khz16bit
Transitions look great on small screen but on a large screen you get distracting by-products, like object duplication.
Timing of titles is unpredictable at export.

Due to the nature of the way it had to be filmed, it was not possible to use the tripod.

Interesting For musos filiming gigs using this cam
this video
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay...018547&hl=en-GB
entirely filmed (obviously not by me!) on 803e visual not edited but interesting it has surround sound from cam remixed manually to two channel and then mixed with direct sound from front of house desk sound. (Skip in a few minutes as the desk sound only kicks in part way into video, the tech forgot start the mixers minidisk recording!!)
It was an interesting task to keep the music sound in sync with the direct sound when the camera moves a variety of distances from the speaker stacks.

thanks pete
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Old 10-20-2006, 12:55 PM
Joe Louvar Joe Louvar is offline
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Wow Pete, good job. I do have one quick suggestion though, try using a tripod more so you have less camera shake and smoother pans. I enjoyed “The Pool of Life”, keep up the good work and thank you for sharing.
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Old 10-20-2006, 09:22 PM
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Due to the nature of the way it had to be filmed, it was not possible to use the tripod.
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Use a tripod obvious but see below!!

Seems like Cazom knows.

Anyway, looks good. Makes me want to try some music with my videos!
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Old 10-21-2006, 04:03 PM
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...Hard learned 803/403 points:-
The zoom was very hard to control and requires practice....
There are zoom buttons on the lcd screen that aren't as touchy. They're a bit more awkward to use, though, since it then takes two hands to operate the camera...
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Old 10-21-2006, 08:32 PM
Joe Louvar Joe Louvar is offline
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You can zoom with the remote too.
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Old 10-25-2006, 06:51 AM
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Ta for viewing film and comments/advice.

Ta for viewing film and comments/advice.
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