First I copy the TOD files to a folder on my harddisk.

Then when I import the clips in Powerdirector this program creates automatic mpg files in the working folder on my harddrive. From there on I work with those files in my own Editor program.

It's that simple actually or am I missing something?

Jean-Pierre

Yes, it is very simple as soon as you connect your GZHD7 to your PC and it automatically start copy in JVC folder, and then you just drag & drop those .TOD files in PowerDirector and it will convert them in MPEG.

You can see those .TOD files in player like VLC without convert them in MPEG but if want to edit then you have to convert them in MPEG.

Rush

That's simply not true. You do NOT need to convert them to edit with EDIUS and Liquid.

And you don't need to use anything that came on the CD. These are clunky programs.

There are free applications (PFRANK) that change the name of the files on the camcorder (for Liquid) and on your computer's HD (for EDIUS) and other free applications (MPEGSTREAMCLIP 1.9Beta) that transcode to AIC for FCP, to DNxHD for Avid, and that REMUX for Premiere Pro and Vegas.

There's a lot of misinformation being posted that will cause people to waste time and lose quality.

Some workflows are near instant.

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"You can see those .TOD files in player like VLC without convert them in MPEG but if want to edit then you have to convert them in MPEG"

Not true.

As I wrote I manually copied the TOD files from the JVC-camcorder to my own harddisk. THEN I inserted them in Powerdirector. By doing this Powerdirector creates normal MPEG files (on its own) which I can edit in Ulead, premiere or whatever. No further conversion needed. As simple as that.

Anyway, it makes the handling for me a lot easier. I hope some of you will find this out for yourself because it's a pain in the ..s less.

Jean-Pierre

The question is HOW are the files converted?

MPEGstreamclip takes about 15- to 20-seconds per file because it is only remuxing which not only is fast it causes no quality loss.

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It is understandable that there is confusion on the issue, since JVC has unleashed a loosely documented video format on us (as if the world of video needs more obfuscation) .

I think the gist of what DVC is saying is that certain video savvy users have figured out that the uniqueness of the .TOD files lies more in the file encapsulation rather than the low level video data itself.

Therefore, when re-saving the .TOD file as an editable mpeg-2 (assuming your editor can handle those), a long processing time is evidence that some type of pixel level transcoding is going on that is unnecessary.

What ticks people off is, all of this has been experimentally determined without any assistance from JVC.
In my opinion, JVC would go a long way in smoothing over all of this by public acknowledgment of what has already been experimentally determined. It would be hard for me to believe that JVC thinks that keeping the true specification of .TOD files a secret would be a proprietary gold mine for them.

All your points are very good, except this one.

If you use the right software, the ONLY transcoding (pixel level transcoding) that needs to be done is when you go to Apple AIC or Avid DNxHD. And, these do not damage quality as you are going from long-GOP to I-frame (AIC) or to near lossless (DNxHD).

Other "conversions" are made almost instantly and only involved remuxing. The MPEG-2 is never decoded.

And, in some cases, only a name change is needed and this can be done -- with the right software -- instantly.

So if its taking time -- you may not be using the right software.

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Tried running it in Vista and the problems goes with plus the apparent lack of good warranty and customer support, simply sucks the life out of you.

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I use ULead VideoStudio 11plus and dont have to do a thing, it works with the .TOD files right out of the cam. I'm running XP Media Center. I just bought the GZ-HD7 HandBook. And loved it ! I also have Ulead Pro 8. , Adoble Prem. , Power Director, Sony Vegas, Studio Platinum. and DivX Editor. I saw somewere that Ulead Pro 8 is working on a driver for the .TOD files. So far I like the Ulead VideoStudio 11 Plus. If the driver comes out for the Pro 8 . I will change from 11 plus to Pro 8. The ulead has a program that you can record HD-DVD or BRay to std DVD in HD for short clips. I just got a LG HD/BR DVD recorder for my studio. I'm trying to get my whole system in HD. Watch out you will spend some money its the little things that will get you. To watch HD/BR DVD's movies I got for X-Mas. I had to upgrade to a new CPU, Ram, and a Video HD Card, on top of the LG drive. Just for My HD7. Its Fun !! cheeper to buy a HD Player. Sorry! Back for the files This is not the only cam having this problem. JVC's 2 or three file types . How about Sony,Sanyo,Pana,canon, etc. and there AVCHD file types 4 to 6 different types. When will it end ? other brands are having the same problem. I dont think there is one player that will play all the AVCHD types with out some type of setup or mod to make it work. This is all new and the software is behind. I don't post that often, but do stop by every day to read and look around. there might be more file names or less. Just hope you got the point !!! The more people buy, and the more we fuss they will help on the software. Just keep it !!!
As far as I care JVC,Canon,Sony,Sanyo,etc. They all did there part . Come on Software Co. It is your turn to ante up !!

Len