PS, one day you will come around, of that I am sure.

The Sony Model: PCV-RZ32G also looks like it maybe a good fit.
cost around $1200 to $1300

It comes with only 512MB of RAM and 80Gig HDD, but
it has and 800MHz frontside bus

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage...29&type=product

I don't know if your a costco shopper...
Costco's Unconditional Double Guarantee
On merchandise: We guarantee your satisfaction on every product we sell with a full refund.

They have sold Dell's and Sony's PC in the past. So if you buy a PC with problems, even if you have used it for years you can return it for a full refund!!!

Costco Membership Info

http://www.costco.com/info/membership/membership.asp?

Dell Desktops

http://www.costco.com/subcat.asp?lo...d=84&subid=3771

I have personally tried Premiere and I think it sucks. "Professional" apps like Avid and Final Cut Pro will give you less headaches. A big problem with Premiere is that it lets you lose sync between audio and video and that it takes more keystrokes and clicks to do a task then other programs. However, the people at my school have found it easy enough to use (the import/export settings are a bit daunting though). Premiere isn't used professionally because of the hassles it gives. Things might change with Premiere Pro. I hear good things about Vegas Video, but I haven't tried it myself (although I am planning to once I get some $$$). Avid also might be a choice too, and if you get Automatic Duck it integrates well with After Effects (but that's very costly).

If I had $3k-$4k for a computer, I would definitely get a Mac unless I needed to play games or run certain PC programs. With educational pricing, you could get a G5 (insert drool here). But anyways, you want a PC and premier and After Effects.

Some companies sell turnkey systems for Premier and Vegas Video (and I think Edition too). For Premiere you can get RT effects cards that speed it up (although they may not work with premiere pro if you buy em now). I know Promax sells turnkey systems, and other companies probably do too. If going with Premiere Pro, get a Pentium based system as PP will be optimized for it.

If you want great savings, build your own system. For advice on components to get, go over to the ars technica forum and ask for help (read the stickies first). There are resources on the internet on how to put together a computer. You can get a hot rod computer for $2k. Add on a RT effects and FW card and you'll be set. If you are buying Premiere now, it's cheaper when you buy certain capture cards.

http://arstechnica.com/guide/system/hotrod.html
There's a buyer's guide for what to get, but it implies overclocking. Total system cost is $1200 + shipping + OS. For hundreds more get the fastest CPU and the right motherboard if you don't want to overclock. The fan will be excessive since the retail fan is good enough. Dell is dull, build your own computer!

However, if you wanted a cool computer, check out ocsystem.com They sell stable, overclocked computers (faster than Dull) which look damn purty. Maybe even better looking than the G5s eh ccbatson?

If you do build your own system, getting the latest greatest pentium processor isn't the greatest value. I would get the best performance for the price (a pentium 2.4 or so). If you get a RT effects card then the processor isn't too important.

I also forgot that massive storage would be nice. A WD 250GB drive should be good enough. It's not that hard to install, just look around for an article on how to do it right.

i was also looking at alienware. They have an editing machine but is a little to expensive

hey everyone what about this ?????

http://reviews.cnet.com/Dell_Dimens...45.html?tag=dir

(regarding my previous mention of ocsystem.com) Looking at resellerratings.com, I'd definitely stay away from ocsystem.com. Alienware looks ok as and is rated better than Dell, but I think Dell sells a lot more computers. Some of the computer manufacturers there have good ratings, you could try them (of course they could be giving themselves high ratings, but who knows).

Hmmm...I noticed that an earlier post by "guest" points back to Mac.....I hate to tell you I told you so (well, hate might be too strong of a word...), but.....

It appears to be a great system... Did you read the user comments on the same site? They are not good. Most are saying the support is bad and it has problems with HD, and DVD issues.

http://reviews.cnet.com/Dell_Dimens...html?tag=subnav

Yep. Macs are great for video editing. They cost a lot though. IMO, here are the good choices:

A- used G4 - lots of power but you'd wish you had a...
B- G5 ( buy RAM and storage from 3rd party)- over $4000CDN though
C- Do-it-yourself system - save a bundle versus buying Dell.
D- Do-it-yourself and overclock - save yourself even more money and you can have a system that is faster than normal Dells. This takes time and ability to trouble shoot though. You can save several hundred versus buying Dell. A top system can be had for around $2200CDN + tax + effort + $300 to replace any part (who needs a warranty anyways?). They can go from stock (2.6mhz/800FSB/DDR400) to 3.25mhz/1000FSB/DDR400) easily and 3.536mhz/1088FSB/435.2DDR when pushed all the way (one guy's results, which may not be typical). The fastest Dell you can get is 3.2mhz/800FSB/DDR400 and that costs around $3009CDN+tax.

A and B are easy, C and D are great value.

Good points guest. My rank order would revers a and b (if you have the budget). An additional consideration not mentioned is an eMac (G4, needs some bulking up for video, but price may be right).

Can I have more suggestions??? (NOT MAC) on what PC to get any where between 1000-1800 would be reasonable

It depends on what you want. You can either buy a premade computer and pay a few hundred extra or you can build one yourself. An AMD processor (2500+) would be good value but if you want more power then you should go with a Pentium 2.4mhz (premier pro will be optimized for pentium). Higher front side bus speeds are good for video.

stuff you probably need:
RAM - 1GB (for RAM previews)
any hard disk for your system and applications (preferably Western Digital Caviar with 8MB buffer, those are the fastest)
a 120GB or so drive for media (120GB is likely the best price/capacity, but a smaller drive is also acceptable depending on how big your projects are) - WD and IBM/hitachi are best
monitor?
DVD writer probably
dual monitors are nice (need a video card that supports it and a second monitor)
speakers or headphones
other obvious stuff (OS, software, etc.)

You can go over to Dell and customize your computer.

Or you can save money by building it yourself. (helps if you have a friend who knows computers) Do you want to do that?

i will prob buy a premade one

I would go over to the Ars Technica forum (http://arstechnica.infopop.net/Open...9562&f=67909965) and ask the folks there. Read the FAQ first and state what your needs are.
Do you need to buy certain software? (premiere pro? vegas?)
if premiere pro, note that a pentium processor is preferable
Where you live (ontario?)
budget
do you need speakers/headphones?
how many installing you want to do (are you willing to install a second hard drive, DVD writer, or RAM?)
educational discounts available to you?
no Mac
any parts that you can use in your new computer (like monitor)
etc.