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04-04-2008, 02:18 AM
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CamcorderInfo's review of the HDR-SR12
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05-21-2008, 01:56 PM
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Could it be the review of the Sony HDR-SR10, in some aspects?
Hi,
Do you think the ratings for the video performance of the Sony HDR-SR12 (10.25) would be the same for the Sony HDR-SR 10? Do you think the review is more or less the same conserning video performance, and lowlight?
By the way, I was wondering if anybody can help me choosing between Sony HDR-SR10 and Canon HV 30. The thing that I give most value on both cameras is video performance and low light. Can anyone tell me which one is better, concerning these factors? And if the difference between each camcorder video performance is very big?
I always look for the ratings here (at camcorderinfo), but there is no review of the Sony SR10. I was wondering if the video performance score of 10.25, given to the Sony HDR-SR 12 is equal to the SR10. I don't need good quality still pictures, and a big LCD, or HDD. I'm only concerned about video. I noticed that the canon Hv 30 was given 10.75. What would be the rate for the SR 10? 10.25?
I'm really more interested on buying the Sony HDR-SR10 because it is cheaper in my country, easyer and faster to transfer my videos into my computer. On the other hand, as I said before I'm looking for good quality on video performance. And I give a great importance to camcorderinfo rates.
I also read a great review for the Sony HDR-SR10, a better review than the review for the canon HV 20, at:
http://www.cnet.com.au/camcorders/c...39287605,00.htm
Thank you,
Filipe
PS: Sorry about my english
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05-23-2008, 12:07 AM
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Pay smart dont just spend well over 2,000 for the latest camcorder.. okies fair enough the sony r12 may have alot of features but do you realise that all camcoders comes with software? yes the software has the features as ina dd ons and visual effect so why bother spend alot on camcorder when it is allready also on the software that comes with the disc?
You wont be wrong if you go for the 10 or 11 model of sony camcorder they all FULL HD . you dont need all that feature added because if you do you are paying EXTRA for NOTHING. you realise it is allso in your software disc that comes with it. So why have it on the camcorder and sisc same time when you could spend something less like 10 or 11 model cheaper price... I mean you are NOT left out at all with the features.. Just ebcause SONY R12 has everything feautre dosnt mean the other older mdoels like 10 or 11 dosnt have nothing.. It does come with it all just like R12 all it is is that your paying cheaper on the older models because it may NOT have all the features but your not left out at all because the features is in the software that comes with it yes thats right the CD that comes with it
You want higher price camcorder and all your doing is pay double same feature on the camcorder and same load on the software so why have it both. Save money cheaper if you consider 10 or 11 because they all FULL HD but yet the smart thinking is... your not left out with the features u just have them loaded on the software CD that comes with it.
Plus HARD DRIVD (GB) why go for 120GB which is 7 horus full of HD filming when most likely non of you people wouild consider be suing all that huge space that the hard drive has to offer.. you would be like filming anything from 30min to 3 or 4 hours but gues what you will understand soon that you still have extra hard drive space but your not even using it all at all so why spend so much on the latest camcorder aniways when hardly you wotn be using 7hours of full hd aniways in a day . Plus its not a storage to keep memories onto harddrive.. the cmcorder needs space and u will end up putting your memories onto a blank dvd and so what you ahve film it stays in your hard drive camcorder only temporary not for EVER.
Ive choosing JVC GZ-HD7 its 60GB it give 5 hours full HD pro filming its cheaper it may not have full features but thats okies because like i said im not left out at all.. the feature is in the software and why bother have it also on the camcorder when most chancese its not like i would be using all the features.. if i want i can do it on PC with the software that comes with it.
Well thats my factor just thought i would point this out.
Your just paying far too much for little things when it is allready in the software alone.. Plus im just here to help people SAVE and pay Smart.
Yes SONY is powerful but dosnt matter if its older model camcorder or such they all do the same cool stuff yes that is FULL HD filming.
take care people
malissa
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P.S
So do you want to spend more price tag cash for a laest camcorder or buy smart and get rh same load but cheaper? surely you would say well i gues go cheaper yeah?
Which ever cam you get that does FULL HD is good. It dosn't mean just because SONY R12 the nwer one films better then the r10 or 11 model. Well infact NOT TRUE. They all record in its SAME quality and perfect FULL HD. all it does with the higher price tag is just because the Hard drive is alittle bigger which surely no need all that amount if you could imagine (are you going to use it all 120gb?) i dont think so and most prob you wont. You would be using half of it most likely since somsumers out there filming wouldnt be out there filming 7 hours but youc ould if you believe your going to then imagine how you would put 7 hours full hd onto PC you would be wasteing a full day to download it all.
So either you get JVC or canon or SONY or older mdoels or such try buy smart get it cheaper.. surely you dont need all that feature added on the camcorder when mainly the ideal of using the camcorder is only to film and yes film in HD and thats all you want from the camera.
So if your choosing 10 or 11 or other models like i will be getting the last years model JVC GZ-HD7 well you will get it cheaper. But dont expect cheaper on the newer models for know until you wish to wait next year when price are reduce down to half price.
Well i hope people realise this.
I mean why go for the most expensive camcorder just because it has all the features dosnt mean your number one with the camcorder.. everyone is number one regardless either the camcorder you get dosnt have much features your NOT LEFT OUT its allso in the software ready for you with all the features and visual effects.
The good thing about the software is because there is far much much more visual effects to choose from then what the laest sony camcorders has to offer within the camcorder.
All camcorder wither it was last years or this year they all going to record the SAME quality in HIGH DEFINITION dosnt mean just because there are newer ones for 2008 dosnt mean its greater performance then the older ones.. NO. its simply just the hard drive capacity and the features.. the features u can do so with software.. But remember.. are u putting your filming onto PC? well use the software its fun that way and use hundreds of visual effects to choose from rather then SOME feaures allready on the camcorder.
Okies all camcorders are good either its last years model and this year so far. Camcorders are becoming smaller so be aware that also holding tiny camcorders wont be easy to film if you have shaky hands.
Could of some how kept the old large camcorders and made them all HD 
Last edited by malissa08 : 05-23-2008 at 02:51 AM.
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05-23-2008, 10:01 PM
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Over priced, just paying for bigger hardrive space 120 GB. Get the SR11 60 Gb for the money it's a great camcorder.
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05-24-2008, 07:24 PM
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Think very carefully with the following facts:
SONY r12 is the latest HD camcorder. But whats new about it is just because it has a bigger hard drive 120gb and 10.2megapixel photo taker. You are going to pay quite alot for the 120gb and because it ahs a 10.2pixel camera for taking photos.
You do realise you can buy a digital camera with LCD screen that has 10.2 megapixel no higher then 300dollars ? this is AUD price. Its true that digital cameras with 10.2 megapixels cost far less much less.. But SONY wants your money so they going to shove it 3 times greater price because the camcorder has 10.2 megapixel and they over charging you. then realise your paying the amount for the 120gb
Think to yourself and wonder...
Are you really going to use 120gb hard drive from the sony r12 ? NO because when you are filming in full HD you would not just be filming 7 long horus of full hd in a day or so on. You would normaly record something 30 to 2 hours but realise everytime you film you are never hardly ever using the full 7 hours of hard drive has to offer... You ahve spend quite alot for this latest camcorder for nothing your hard drive will be unused and left with a big space left over.
Im onlyb helping people save money. SONY 10/11 models are good it has 60GB it is aprox 5 horus of FULL HD its plenty. Why spend over 2,000dollars for the latest camcorder when all CAMCORDERS IN HD are and do the exact thing ? apart from different hard drive amount.
Who really needs 120GB hard drive on a camcorder which is 7 horus full hd for when most of you guys wont be even ever using the full 7 horus filming. You would be putting your recording onto a blank dvd later so you cant allways leave what you have recorded onto your camcorder hard drive because IT IS NOT A STORAGE CAPACITY. it is a temporary capacity until put them onto a dvd disc.
So if i was you guys and girls i would buy cheaper SONY 10/11 model one of them and gues what? your still getting the best quality HD ever and your paying less and your also saving for the best and you have worked that one very smart because remember the sony r12 has a digital camera built in which is a high end 10.2megapixel but you can actually buy a digital camera that takes photos only at a high end of 10.2megapixels under 300.00 dollars and not obove that. So think carefully and ask to your self why the SONY R12 is so expensive...
When you can do it how i said it and it works far cheaper and smarter.
60GB is good 5 full hours of HD. No need 7 full HOURS of HD because you hardly ever need 7 hours filming in a day or such. Since you wont dare to film 7 hours and manage how you would shove it onto a blank disc.. you would be wasteing days on end.
good luck with the buying
Try my tip please and this would help you save money quite alot. And yet you will INDEED get everything in quality just like the latest ones..
And also remember what ive said about camcorders with features... your paying extra because of that and even yet it allready comes with the software features.. so why have it on the camcorder and same time on the disc and the disc is cheaper then having it in the camcorder. read the first obove about that one.
Of course getting SONY 10 or the 11 model dosnt mean its bad. It films HD and it does the same as all HD camcorders.. just buy with confidence.
again thanks for your time.
Do whats good for you people.
Just dont go crazzy by spending higher amoutn laest camcorder when you do NOT need 120gb capacity and u dont need all features added when it is cheaper to get it on CD instead.
malissa :")
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06-21-2008, 08:42 PM
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^ Ok, you're missing many big points. 90% of people with the SR12 fill the HDD fast. 7 hours of video is not that much actually. That's like 7 Mini DV tapes, and thats not a lot. People on vacation especially need bigger HDDs. If you record in SD, then 120GB is MORE than enough but in HD it's a nice amount. Also, you're missing another big point. Not all HD camcorders are the same. Yes, they all film in HD, but quality is another difference. You mentioned the SR10 and SR11/12. Well, there are differences between them than just HDD. Their CMOS sensors are different. The SR11/12 models produce high quality video. So yes, people get the SR11/12 because it's worth it over other models. Bigger HDD for more video, 10MP images (nice bonus), manual controls (control knob), better design, viewfinder,mic in, headphone, and bigger CMOS sensor for amazing video. SR11/12 camcorders are worth it.
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