I want to edit a SD1 video in vegas and return it to SD card. Why this? to use the sd1 connected to tv and see the edited video.

I have some problems with that, I've tried to render in SONY AVC and with mainconcept AVC, i think SD1 uses AVC codec at 13mbps, anyway the sd1 doesn't recognize the video.

Do you know how to do this?

thanks!

This is very easy, but i have only done it with Nero 7. Just create a AVCHD disk, but output it to a folder. Copy it to your SDHC card and the SD1 (SD3 in my case) plays it fine.

i find it, now i will try and say something.

anyway i assume that nero will recompress all another time, so 3 times lossing quality there (avc in the camera, in vegas, and in nero). The best format to export in vegas to do that will be with high bitrate encoding with mpeg2, to loose the minimal before using nero?

i want to find the codec that nero uses to avoid nero to recompress all, maybe with some codec nero don't have to make all process.

i will try because it's very slow process

thanks!

Yeah there will be quality loss with that workflow (mainly a slight decrease in sharpness and resolution). Hmm, i guess the simplest option is to do it all in Nero. Import the avchd file, edit, then export it as avchd with the same or higher bitrate to avoid quality loss.

Also in your workflow, make sure u keep the 60i. At no point u should deinterlace or convert to progressive, because the camera will output as 60i, keeping the original info about the motion.

i made many tests and now the best way it's using nero vision and import MTS and make the movie, then use the smart encoding that nero uses to only render the transitions between scenes.

I don't like this way because nero vision is really poor and limited software to edit. So i've tried with vegas:

I used Sony AVC to encode, with mpeg2 transport system. So 13mb rate, AC-3 5.1 for the sound at 384kbps = to the mts that sd1 records on sd card.

later i import to nero vision, smart encode says that is 100% compatible to be encoded without re-encoding but the final mts file sounds good but it's black, no image in there. If i turn off the smart encoding in nero works perfectly but making the encode another time, loosing quality and many many time.

I've tried mpeg 4 mainconcept in vegas to but smart encoding don't like it.

It's a shame that i can find how to render a video in vegas ready to send it to sd1 card or to a dvd acvhd blu ray system.

Rapidbcn,

Assuming you have Vegas Pro 8, try using this formula;

Open Vegas Pro 8. From the file menu click new. In the New Project box on the Video tab, at the far right end of the "Template" line, click "Match Media Settings". Locate the folder that contains the .m2ts files that you want to edit. Click on a file, any file will do, you're just going to extract the file information from it. Then click "Open". The Video tab should now contain all the correct information from your file. Next click on the "Audio" tab. Change the "Master Bus Mode:" from "Stereo" to "5.1 Surround". Then click OK on the New Properties box. Next, drag the files you want to edit onto the timeline. If they are already there, that's fine too. Edit the files as you wish. When you're done editing you will need to render your project in AVCHD. To do this, click on the File menu and click "Render As...". In the Render As box, next to "Save as type:" select "Sony AVC (*.mp4;*.m2ts;*.avc). Then next to "Template:" select "AVCHD PAL 5.1 surround" (for Italy). Then pick a File Name for your Render As project and a Folder to save it in (top of the Render As box). Click Save. Your project will start rendering. This will take some time, so be prepared to walk away from your computer for a while.

I have a Sony AVCHD HDD camcorder and this works perfectly for me to get edited video back into my camcorder for playback onto mine or someone else’s TV. I use the software that came with the camcorder to export it back into the camcorder, and I recommend you do the same. May save some hassles that way. Vegas Pro 8 is also capable of burning Bluray Discs directly from the timeline. I don't have a BD burner so I have never tested that feature. If some day you get a Bluray player, you can burn these same files to standard 4.7 gig DVD's using the software that came with your Panasonic and create AVCHD DVD's that will play in any AVCHD compatible Bluray player or PS3. You do not need a BD burner unless you don't think the 35 or so minutes you can get at the highest quality on a DVD is long enough. You can fit over 3 hours on a 25 gig BD, and if that is what you need then get a BD burner. The HD quality is exactly the same whether the file is on a BD or a DVD. So there is no reason to buy a BD burner to burn it to a BD unless you "need" 3 hrs. of video on one disc.

Hope this helps.

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Sony HDR-SR1 AVCHD HDD User

Hi Ernie, first thank you very much to large explain.

This is what i make normally with vegas, and seems that has to work. But when i send the resultant file to nero to make the avchd structure file to record to a SD card, nero finds it 100% compatible with smart encoding but when finishes the encoding the resultant file it's completely dark, with no video in there.

So don't know.

Thanks for all!

If you are using Vegas Pro 8 there is no need to run the file through Nero. In fact, once Nero does "anything" to my files they will no longer play in my Sony AVCHD cam.

I just edit the files in VP8 using the procedure I told you and then open them with Picture Motion Browser, which is the program that came with my Sony cam. I then export the file from there into the camcorder. I'm not sure what program Panasonic ships with, but I'm sure it came with some sort of program for file management, HD to SD conversion, and simple editing. Just open the file with that program and export the file from there to your memory card while it's in the camcorder. Skip Nero for anything you want to play in the camcorder.

I use Nero 8UE to add thumbnail menu's and chapters to the edited files and then create AVCHD DVD's that play beautifully in full HD in my Bluray Player. I could just use Nero to do the file editing as well. But Nero's editing capabilities are very limited compared to Vegas, and the Nero edited files won't play in my camcorder. So I just do all the file editing in Vegas and then open the already edited file in Nero to add the chapters, thumbnail menu, and burn it to AVCHD DVD.

So in a nutshell, you'll need to keep the file that you edit in VP8 unaltered in any way (which also means no menu) so you can play it from your camcorder if you wish. And use Nero 8UE if you want to take that file and create a AVCHD DVD with a thumbnail menu and chapters that will play in a AVCHD compatible Bluray Player or Sony PS3.

I hope this all makes sense.

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Sony HDR-SR1 AVCHD HDD User