Hi,

I am just bought a HF10 and I am until now very pleased with it. I have during the first week shot a lot of footage in 1080/24p. Most of it of my daughter running around playing.

I am now in doubt whether that was the correct setting. When I playback the footage the picture is "jumping" when I am fx panning. Whould I have used 60i? When should I use what?

I am living in Europe but I have bought the camera in the US, so it is a NTSC camera, will that give me any problems?

Best regards

Henrik Skak Pedersen

24p will not create very fluid motion. Best to use 60i indeed. Also to properly process it you need to remove the 2:3 pulldown (tmpgenc xpress can do it like some other programs). But motion will still be way less fluid than 60i.

Second thing to watch out for is your TV (or do you use PC monitor?). Several European TV's and DVD players support 60Hz NTSC playback. If not, there will be some conversion and that might cause also some loss off fluid motion. However I would just try 60i and see how that works.

Thank you very much for your reply. Ok I will change to 60i for future recordings. What is the 2:3 pulldown and how can I remove it?

When should I use 24p or 30p?

I am btw using iMovie for editing if that makes a difference?

I am using both a tv and a computer for playback and it works fine both places. What if I burn a normal DVD and play it on a PAL tv would that work?

Best regards
Henrik.

24p is stored in 60i format on Canon. Here's more background info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2:3_pulldown#2:3_pulldown

Basically if you want to convert it to 24p flagged format you can use some programs but a wild guess is that you'll find more PAL players being able to play 60i than 24p.
Not all PAL DVD players can play NTSC so best just to try.

I missed these 2 questions. Unfortunately I'm not familiar with iMovie. Searching on the internet I found recommendations for JES Deinterlacer (which seems to support 2:3 pulldown/inverse telecine) to be used on top of imovie but not sure if that's outdated information.

The advantage of 24p is that you get a more film-like 'motion' (if that's what you're looking for). Typically used together with cinemode.

The advantage of 30p is that you don't have to deinterlace on your computer and also you get a slightly sharper picture (but not big difference). If iMovie doesn't deinterlace than this might be a good convenient option. 30p is slightly less fluid than 60i but not as bad as 24p. So best just to give it a try if you like it.

One other advantage of both 24p and 30p is better low-light performance.

Hi Luc,

Thank you very much for your reply. I will try the 60i option and check whether it will work out for me. I will try to use the JES interlacer for my current footage.

Again thank you.

Cheers
Henrik.

Hi Luc,

Thank you very much for your reply. I will try the 60i option and check whether it will work out for me. I will try to use the JES interlacer for my current footage.

Again thank you.

Cheers
Henrik.

Just wondering how you're going with your US camera in PAL land - have you noticed any where effects at all in your recordings?

(I've seen mention that because of the difference in mains power (50hz vs 60hz), it may cause some unusual effects, like lights flickering etc - however I'm not sure how true that is).

I have not seen any effects at all. Everything seems be be working fine. The only issue is if I have to display my footage on a PAL tv, I need to do a conversion.

Doing a framerate conversion is pretty tough process to do properly. Just a thought: most PAL DVD players can playback NTSC DVD's (and output PAL60), so there are probably also blu-ray/HD players than can playback PAL HD DVD's so you wouldn't need conversion.

My guess is that both PS3 or XBOX360 should playback both formats.

Hello. glad this thread has addressed this, as it's something I hadn't thought about (as I'd be using a PAL).

This is a more general question: does this lower framerate mean greater ease editing the AVCHD? Will it be quicker etc?

All progressive framerates are stored as 60i. If you want to keep 60i then it will pretty much the same. If you decide to remove the pull-down it might take more time but not much difference overall anyway compared to the time it takes to do the encoding.

WMVHD 25p plays back fine on my NTSC Xbox360 (I'm guessing the opposite would work as well).