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05-09-2008, 11:56 AM
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Which software for HF10; 30p on blue-ray?
I'm planning to buy a HF10 in a week or two, here are 2 questions:
1) Which editing softwares are more suitable for Canon AVCHD camcorder? I suppose Vegas is prepare for Sony camcorder?
2) I am thinking about record most of the clips in 30p, can I burn 30p data directly to a blue-ray disc and play normally? I know some players and TVs have 24p mode.
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05-09-2008, 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by lee02
I'm planning to buy a HF10 in a week or two, here are 2 questions:
1) Which editing softwares are more suitable for Canon AVCHD camcorder? I suppose Vegas is prepare for Sony camcorder?
2) I am thinking about record most of the clips in 30p, can I burn 30p data directly to a blue-ray disc and play normally? I know some players and TVs have 24p mode.
Thanks!
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I found these work:
- tmpgenc Xpress 4.4 (with either K-lite codec pack or coreavc installed, when opening files you need to say 'all files' to see the files)
- Sony Vegas 8.0b (when rendering to WMVHD you have to use the 32bit, gamma 2.222 setting otherwise you get incorrect color space)
- Latest Pinnacle Ultimate
30p is stored as 60i so they will work. But if they are correctly rendered in best resolution depends on your player/TV deinterlacing support (e.g. detects 2:2 pulldown in the clips).
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05-10-2008, 12:06 PM
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Thanks!
(1) But if Blue-ray disc take 30p as 60i, what is the purpose to record at 30p? I found some player and TV support 24p, so that means some are not. How about 30p then?
I suppose a player and TV that support 24p would not convert and to 48i?
I have heard that some TV will support or convert to 60p, 120p in the future. That could mean they also support, or will convert 30p to 120p. But there is so far no player claim anything about 30p, only some are ready for 24p.
How could I edit and share 30p files and finished copies without convertion in between?
Can 30p be natively stored and played in present machines, or for future machines?
(2) Is Adobe Premier CS3 a good choice for Canon AVCHD?
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05-10-2008, 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by lee02
Thanks!
(1) But if Blue-ray disc take 30p as 60i, what is the purpose to record at 30p? I found some player and TV support 24p, so that means some are not. How about 30p then?
I suppose a player and TV that support 24p would not convert and to 48i?
I have heard that some TV will support or convert to 60p, 120p in the future. That could mean they also support, or will convert 30p to 120p. But there is so far no player claim anything about 30p, only some are ready for 24p.
How could I edit and share 30p files and finished copies without convertion in between?
Can 30p be natively stored and played in present machines, or for future machines?
(2) Is Adobe Premier CS3 a good choice for Canon AVCHD?
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The issue is rather if the format is recognized. Canon stores 30p as 60i (2:2 pulldown). I don't know how many HD televisions or HD players can recognize this properly and skip deinterlacing when they detect it's 30p stored in a 60i stream.
There has been 24p tests here with various televisions (and still some fail this test): http://www.hometheatermag.com/hookm...ook2/index.html
I don't know if anyone tested 2:2 pulldown yet. Note that if a TV 'supports' 24p it doesn't mean the framerate is 24p (it will typically convert the framerate to the internal framerate of the display and some will do a better job than others).
Canon's main selling point for 30p is easy distribution/editing on a PC since you don't need to bother with deinterlacing (but there are certainly other advantages like low-light and slight resolution increase).
I guess the reason (and not just Canon) to store 24p, 30p as 60i, is for higher compatibility.
Again this all depends on what you use to play the content and which device you use to view it on.
Not an expert on Adobe Premiere but last time I checked they didn't support natively AVCHD.
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