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Camcorder for drifting HC96 vs GS500
Since I've been getting a lot of positive feedback about my videos ( www.vimeo.com/drift ), I've decided to step my game up a little bit, yhe plan is to have a camera mounted inside(I use a DIY mount that mounts to the cage in the car) one mounted to the outside of the car and me shooting outside...
So I'm researching right now, but I'm trying to see if I can get any recommendations or personal experience. - What I'm looking for, $300-400 price range (doesn't have to be new, ebay or used options will work)
- 4:3 will work but 16:9 is prefered
- Good Image stabilization, camera will go through the worst conditions imaginable (mounted to side of the car with stiffest or close to none suspension, doing 60-70mph sliding side to side) I wish hv20 worked for that, but we know that fast vibration + HV20 = JELLY TIME
- ability to use some sort of wide lens... (I actually have 30-52 step up rings so I might even use my HD6600 Raynox) All I care about is how much it captures zoomed out...
There are some night events so low light performance a big +
And because of that vibrations what would be the recommendation miniDV, HDD, or flash if those are even available in price range...
And CMOS cameras aren't really friendly with fast vibrations, so that limits me to CCD cameras I guess.
and I'll be getting one of those suction cups, any other recommendations?
http://www.filmtools.com/gripsuccupca.html
Here is an idea of what it will be used for...
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05-15-2008, 01:31 AM
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05-19-2008, 01:32 PM
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How does Sony HC96 sound? Seems like an excellent choise? The only con for me is no audio jack... pros are (EIS, read somewhere that its better for fast vibrations compared to ois) and low light performance...
and the other option a used Panasonic PV-GS500...
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05-19-2008, 03:11 PM
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How does Sony HC96 sound? Seems like an excellent choise? The only con for me is no audio jack... pros are (EIS, read somewhere that its better for fast vibrations compared to ois) and low light performance...
and the other option a used Panasonic PV-GS500...
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The HC96 has a proprietary microphone input. There was a $20 adapter available at one time which would allow a standard microphone input. Is this what you consider an "audio jack"?
The HC96 has analog A/V inputs the GS500 does not.
They are both good camcorders. I have the GS500 and use to edit HC90 video for a friend.
Mechanical vibrations generally are not handled well by OIS and many EIS systems.
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05-21-2008, 01:43 AM
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kind of left me hanging in there, thanks for some input anyway
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05-22-2008, 02:36 AM
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something interesting I found
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Why is digital or electronic image stabilization better than optical for racing?
Optical image stabilization uses two lenses to stabilize a given scene you have in your viewfinder. There's a second lens behind the one you can see on the outside of the camera that moves in the opposite direction of the cameras movement. This helps maintain a clear image of the scene in your viewfinder. The problem is, the stabilizing lens floats inside the camera and cannot handle the bumps and jarring from racing or just normal driving. The digital or electronic image stabilization does degrade the picture quality, but it's so slight that it's impossible for the naked eye to see.
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05-22-2008, 09:15 AM
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Yes, that is basically correct however you will find that also most if not all camcorder manuals recomend that you turn off image stabilization when using a tripod.
Many image stabilization systems are designed for hand shake. With mechanical type vibrations you get a variety of different results. Also while moving the mounted camcorder you can get a jerking video as the stabilization attemps to correct a moving image.
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05-26-2008, 01:21 AM
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05-26-2008, 10:31 AM
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At quick glance the Sony Cybershot video looks sharper than the HV20, even when standing still.
But then you are comparing a High Definition (HD) camcorder to what may be standard definition camera and then displaying on a very small image size and I don't know about the Raynox lens. I'm not sure why you went with (HD)
It's difficult to watch on that site, you might consider vimeo.com for it's ease of use and HD and downlod capability.
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05-26-2008, 03:52 PM
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The point of the video was to show the shakiness, not the quality, don't want to use my vimeo space. Still looking for the right camcorder for the job
lucky beaver...
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