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06-27-2008, 06:29 AM
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HSR-SR11(12) and a 64-bit OS... help!
I just ordered a new PC with Windows XP Pro (w/ a free Vista upgrade when I'm ready).
I planned on buying a new SR11 (or 12) very soon (my first child is due in a couple of weeks). I've been told that the Sony camcorders do no have 64-bit supported USB drivers.
Should I cancel my PC order? I do not want to buy a PC that I won't be able to use. Is there any way I can get the files from the camcorder on to the PC for editing / burning? I use Sony Vegas Movie Studio now and it works fine on my XP Pro. I also heard someone say that Sony is going to release a 64-bit version Vegas 8 this summer.
I got a reply from Sony saying that they are working on drivers to support 64-bit.. but didn't say when they would be out.
I wonder if there is a way to make this new system run in 32-bit mode... I'll have to call Dell and see.
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06-27-2008, 06:45 AM
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I just got off the phone with Dell. The PC I ordered is 32-bit. I asked why they recommended 4gb ram when the system wouldn't be able to support it. He said the extra ram gets used by processes 'behind the scenes'... whatever that means.
So I guess I'm OK... my new PC is a 32-bit Windows XP Pro.
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06-27-2008, 08:30 PM
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32 bit OS only uses 3gb (3.3 gb I believe) but the system uses the ram faster when in pairs so 4gb would be a bit faster than 3gb.
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07-02-2008, 01:19 AM
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Originally Posted by JrFreak
I just ordered a new PC with Windows XP Pro (w/ a free Vista upgrade when I'm ready).
I planned on buying a new SR11 (or 12) very soon (my first child is due in a couple of weeks). I've been told that the Sony camcorders do no have 64-bit supported USB drivers.
Should I cancel my PC order? I do not want to buy a PC that I won't be able to use. Is there any way I can get the files from the camcorder on to the PC for editing / burning? I use Sony Vegas Movie Studio now and it works fine on my XP Pro. I also heard someone say that Sony is going to release a 64-bit version Vegas 8 this summer.
I got a reply from Sony saying that they are working on drivers to support 64-bit.. but didn't say when they would be out.
I wonder if there is a way to make this new system run in 32-bit mode... I'll have to call Dell and see.
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I am using an HDR-SR12E on my two Vista Ultimate x64 boxes. Sony Picture Motion Browser and the Handycam Utility work fine on these 64 bit systems.
I am also running Vegas Pro 8b on my x64 boxes, unfortunately Vegas doesn't recognize AVCHD files on 64 bit systems. But that's not an issue for me as I am using Pinnacle Studio 12.
Pinnacle Studio 12 is probably the best editing software for AVCHD footage on x64 systems available today. Rendereing is very fast and BD output is superb.
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07-02-2008, 09:25 AM
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Thanks for the info. I'll use it for future reference. The system I ordered is a 32bit system. I shouldn't have too much problem with it.
I bought Sony Vegas Movie Studio Platinum, but I might sell it and get Vegas Pro instead. How much is Pinnacle Studio 12? How does it compare to Vegas for AVCHD overall?... rendering, output, user interface, ease of use, etc.
Thanks!
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07-04-2008, 01:41 AM
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Originally Posted by JrFreak
Thanks for the info. I'll use it for future reference. The system I ordered is a 32bit system. I shouldn't have too much problem with it.
I bought Sony Vegas Movie Studio Platinum, but I might sell it and get Vegas Pro instead. How much is Pinnacle Studio 12? How does it compare to Vegas for AVCHD overall?... rendering, output, user interface, ease of use, etc.
Thanks!
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I have no clue how much S12 is in the USA. On this side of the pond ist is 99,- EUR.
S12 AVCHD rendering on an x64 system is very fast and the ouput is superb. S12 has a very good GUI and is very user friendly. In S12 Pinnacle add a "Pinnacle Video Driver" to overcome all the problems with ATI Radeon graphic boards. S12 Ultimate (129,- EUR) comes with very expensive plugins like Boris Graffiti (299,- $), Magic Bullets en ProDAD Vitascene.
Since Studio 11 Pinnacle uses the Liquid engine in all of its Studio products.
I can only run Vegas on an x86 virtual machine (VMware 6) and then it is not very fast.
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07-07-2008, 05:04 PM
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I've been told that the Sony camcorders do no have 64-bit supported USB drivers.
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Not sure where you got this from, but windows hasn't needed USB drivers for a long, long time. The original Windows 98 needed them, but that was fixed with the Win98SE version, and that and all subsequent versions have included drivers as standard.
The SR11/SR12 is just a standard USB device, so plug it into any PC and it will be detected and appear as a standard external drive allowing you to browse the files on it. You don't need any special driver to do this, and yes, it works fine on Vista x64.
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I am also running Vegas Pro 8b on my x64 boxes, unfortunately Vegas doesn't recognize AVCHD files on 64 bit systems. But that's not an issue for me as I am using Pinnacle Studio 12.
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This must be an issue with your PC. I run Vegas Pro 8 fine on my Vista Ultimate x64 machine, and it just works. It has no problem playing AVCHD files from either my SR12 or my HF100.
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I can only run Vegas on an x86 virtual machine (VMware 6) and then it is not very fast.
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That's pretty strange. It installs and runs fine for me as a standard 32bit app. Same as all other 32bit apps on the PC. Actually I don't have any native 64bit apps yet, they're all 32 bit. Why do you need to run it on VMware?
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07-07-2008, 08:06 PM
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Not sure where you got this from, but windows hasn't needed USB drivers for a long, long time. The original Windows 98 needed them, but that was fixed with the Win98SE version, and that and all subsequent versions have included drivers as standard.
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I got this right from Sony's website. I'll try to find the link. |
07-07-2008, 08:08 PM
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07-08-2008, 06:04 AM
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This must be an issue with your PC. I run Vegas Pro 8 fine on my Vista Ultimate x64 machine, and it just works. It has no problem playing AVCHD files from either my SR12 or my HF100.
That's pretty strange. It installs and runs fine for me as a standard 32bit app. Same as all other 32bit apps on the PC. Actually I don't have any native 64bit apps yet, they're all 32 bit. Why do you need to run it on VMware?
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Vegas Pro 8b will not recognize AVCHD footage (or the directory where it is stored) on my Windows Vista Ultimate x64 SP1 machine. I will work fine with AVCHD footage when I run Vegas Pro 8b in a Vista x86 virtual machine.
And I am not the only one with this problem on this side of the pond. Calling Sony Support is no solution then the standard answer is:"Sony Creative Software doesn't support Windows Vista x64". |
07-08-2008, 04:09 PM
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I believe that's saying that Sony don't offer any technical support for users running on a 64 bit OS. Presumably because trying to explain to users about the differences between 32 bit and 64 bit drivers is too much of a pain.
It does work fine however. It just appears as a standard USB storage device so you can browse the files on it as you would a normal external harddrive.
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Vegas Pro 8b will not recognize AVCHD footage (or the directory where it is stored) on my Windows Vista Ultimate x64 SP1 machine. I will work fine with AVCHD footage when I run Vegas Pro 8b in a Vista x86 virtual machine.
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It seems likely that you have something installed on your machine that is interfering with Vegas video playback, but I'm curious what you mean by saying it will not recognize the directory where the footage is stored? That sounds like you have something seriously wrong with your setup. If you're browsing say from windows explorer, and the SR11 is assigned as drive E: (for example) then the AVC footage will be in E:\AVCHD\BDMV\STREAM\. Are you saying that this directory is not accessable?
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07-09-2008, 01:37 AM
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Originally Posted by willc
It seems likely that you have something installed on your machine that is interfering with Vegas video playback, but I'm curious what you mean by saying it will not recognize the directory where the footage is stored? That sounds like you have something seriously wrong with your setup. If you're browsing say from windows explorer, and the SR11 is assigned as drive E: (for example) then the AVC footage will be in E:\AVCHD\BDMV\STREAM\. Are you saying that this directory is not accessable?
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What I am saying is the following. I have all my video files on a separate 1 TB HHD in a direcory /Captured Video with sub-directories /DV Tapes & /Hi Tapes & /AVCHD Footage. My imported (with Sony PMB) AVCHD footage is in the directory /Captured Video/AVCHD Footage. This directory does not show up in Vegas Pro 8b build 217 (Explorer tab). When I drag and drop an AVCHD clip directly from the directory into Vegas Pro 8b I receive the message:"None of the files dropped on Vegas Pro could be opened".
Vegas Pro 8b works fine with DV footage and digitized Hi8 footage (AVI).
I don't think that there is something wrong with my two Vista x64 boxes. Studio 12 Ultimate, Premiere Pro CS3, After Effects CS3 are all working fine (Adobe CS3 doesn'work with AVCHD).
And I am not the only one with this problem. German and French forums are loaded with messages about this issue. No solution so far.
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07-09-2008, 05:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Timosha
I have all my video files on a separate 1 TB HHD in a direcory /Captured Video with sub-directories /DV Tapes & /Hi Tapes & /AVCHD Footage. My imported (with Sony PMB) AVCHD footage is in the directory /Captured Video/AVCHD Footage. This directory does not show up in Vegas Pro 8b build 217 (Explorer tab). When I drag and drop an AVCHD clip directly from the directory into Vegas Pro 8b I receive the message:"None of the files dropped on Vegas Pro could be opened".
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Have you tried getting the AVCHD footage straight from the camera instead of going via Sony PMB?
Try these steps...
1. Record some footage to the SR11 harddrive in FH mode.
2. Connect SR11 to your PC with USB cable.
3. Select the USB HD option on the touch screen.
4. Using windows explorer, browse to the drive allocated to the SR11. If for example the drive is E:, then browse to "E:\AVCHD\BDMV\STREAM\" and check that you can see the MTS file (or files) in that folder.
5. Now load Vegas and using the explorer tab, browse to the same path as above from within Vegas.
6. Click on the last .MTS file (the one you just recorded) and check that the correct video information is displayed for the file at the bottom of the Vegas explorer window. It should say something like "Video: 1920x1080x32, 25.000 fps, interlaced ...".
7. Click the 'Start Preview' button on the explorer tab to preview the clip.
8. If that all works, then drag the clip from the Vegas explorer onto the timeline.
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07-09-2008, 07:46 AM
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Have you tried getting the AVCHD footage straight from the camera instead of going via Sony PMB?
Try these steps...
1. Record some footage to the SR11 harddrive in FXP mode.
Done
2. Connect SR11 to your PC with USB cable.
Done
3. Select the USB HD option on the touch screen.
Done (I know how to operate PMB and my HDR-SR12E)
4. Using windows explorer, browse to the drive allocated to the SR11. If for example the drive is E:, then browse to "E:\AVCHD\BDMV\STREAM\" and check that you can see the MTS file (or files) in that folder.
Of course I can see them and can copy them.
5. Now load Vegas and using the explorer tab, browse to the same path as above from within Vegas.
Done, Vegas does not want to show AVCHD footage on my SR12 HDD.
6. Click on the last .MTS file (the one you just recorded) and check that the correct video information is displayed for the file at the bottom of the Vegas explorer window. It should say something like "Video: 1920x1080x32, 25.000 fps, interlaced ...".
Vegas doesn't show anything as it doesnt't want show directories where m2ts and mts files are stored. Not on my SR12 HDD or any other HDD on my computers.
7. Click the 'Start Preview' button on the explorer tab to preview the clip.
Doesn't work
8. If that all works, then drag the clip from the Vegas explorer onto the timeline.
Doesn't work
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See above, I entered my text in the quoted text.
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07-09-2008, 11:21 AM
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Vegas doesn't show anything as it doesnt't want show directories where m2ts and mts files are stored
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This sounds very strange. It doesn't show the directory at all?
To be clear, if you browse directly on the SR12 HD with the Vegas explorer to, say, E:\AVCHD\BDMV\, then which of these is correct...
1) You can't see a STREAM directory at all.
2) You can see a STREAM directory, but when you double click it, it won't open.
3) You can see a STREAM directory, and can open it by double clicking it, but there are no visible files inside it.
If it's 3) then you could try setting the Vegas explorer view settings to 'All Files' and see if that makes the MTS files visible. |
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